Item 6 - Request for an "All-Way" Stop Sign Installation at Martincoit and RostrataJudy Markley 16607 K-artincoit Road Po. (71 year residents
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I would first like to thank the Staff for their time in reviewing the lower`Nartincoit
Roadr safety situation. After reading their reed mendations,, I was disappointed to see their°
stand on the• stop sign.. I feel their recommended items t thru 4 would help,,if implemented,
but urge the importance the stop sign would have. No where else,in Green Valley are flashing,
red beacons., and street eights installed at a stop sign intersection, LEY H: ? I. submit
as evidence FOR a stop sign(s) these petitions signed during the week of January 12 ,1986 ;
a map showing the affected area and accidents over the last seven2 years and a July 5', 1984
Poway Chieftain article about our last plea.to City Council on.this very safety subject.
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During our collection of signatures, we found overwhelming support fQr the stop signs
from people, who live,, work or walk in the specific area. of discussion. I learned. of more
accidents than I had actually been aware of. T:ae. ;.ap denotes accidents, one accident involving
a female child 'r t by a vehicle on her way to school in 1;075 and £he fatality in 1971: of a.
1'Zyr old on.'- is, bike. I was quite surprised. to learn t at the*87- �F; l., at. their- Jan. 15th
Board of Directors' Meet ng the G'.V.G.A.Is ten: board members hastily voted to endorse the
staff reco,:�.r�endations and oppose: the stop. sign. Had any of these members. lived in this:
stretch of -XIMrtiricoit cher: on the map: or talked to any of us who do,, they may have
agueed.
'With.. t:-�e local homeowners. and voted for a stop sign to increase pedestrian safety
id this dangerous section. Did they have full, knowledge??`?
The July,,1584 Chieftain article- hmg.3ighted in yellow, states the then haayor Tarty
said and I, quotelf and if we decide we still need a. stop sign, we still can do it rile,
article also says how councilmembers told residents a stop sign could b- installed ata later,
date. As they article continues & I will. quote staff's The guardrail -could provide a PERiIATI�iIT
solution, regarding cars leaving the highway and. da;-aaging private property . " end o f quote,.
Wel ...., when will Vais later date be considered:-' and :ghat about the property damage
caused at the Dec-:rber. 26th accident site andthe: fact a vahicle DID leave this. toad%highway?
F'inally,;wf feel the installation of a stop _sign,, as stated ID.-fore,, would be a PREVS!�T:�TIV3
measure 'taken by City, "ouncil. to try to alleviat t ,e seriousnRss o� a unique situ�L on
in a residential area used by hoa;iemmers;adult walkers and joggers and children walking;
to Painted Rock School. or their bus stops: to fiddle School & High School. Please consider
stop signs as,a step in the right direction to. solving thismost important unique
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residents:to sofves eed problems., Remember speed-Thank you.
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Councilmembers asked
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reflectors soon will be in
staff to look into it further,
hi the- curve area and a
stalled: on Martincoit Road'
telling the residents. a. stop
steel guardrail through the
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always' could, be installed at
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Rack School: and Rostrata
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Road,: buta.stap sign is.
"We'll try' this first,"
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only in the discussion
Mayor-Bruce Tarzy said,
tion regarding cars leaving,
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"and if we decide we still
the highway and damaging
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Poway City Council last
need: a stop sign, we still.
privateproperty," thestaff
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week approved spending
can do " it.
report indicated.
14,04Q' to make Martincok
Speed isl the primary con-'
In addition, the shoulder ,
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safer,,- primarily for
cern on Martincoit,. and
. area of Martincoit will. be
'graded,
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pedestrians,- a majority of
residents and staff have
and landscaping
them: elementary school
been working together.for
will be: cleared to give: at '
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children:
some time to develop atter.-
.least a four=foot
Although some residents
natives for eliminating: the
, unobstructed: walkway to
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in the area urged the city to
problem.
children going to and from
install. a stop: sign on Mar-
The city` previously
school:
tineoit at the Rostrata in
established a 25 mile-ger:
Some residents
ersection, staff recommen-
hour zone in the: curve area
wondered aboutusing; a
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north of Rostrata: and, near.
-solid wood: fence instead of
would be hard to show a
the school, but drivers: are
the steel guardrail, but,
valid need for it, especially
not conforming. `
staff indicatedthat for
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if citations were contested
Residents urged stepped
safety considerations, the '
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in court.
up- law enforcement; and
steel guardrail, which: can
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be painted something other-
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than whiter, is the best
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AGENDA REPORT
CITY OF PO'WAY
TO Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council
FROM: James. L. Bowersox, City Ma
INITIATED. BY: Alan D.. Archibald, Director of Public Services J
DATE: January 21, 1986
SUBJECT Request for an "All -Way" Stop Sign Installation
at the Intersection of.Martincoit and Rostrata
BACKGROUND ,
Based upon previous concerns expressed by the Green Valley
residents, the Engineering Division analyzed.Martincoit Road
between Rostrata and Green Valley Creek Based upon the
engineer's report., a 25 MPH'speed limit was established on
October 11, 1983 by Resolution No 83-74
r Subsequently, the: City Council received a petition asking
that the City Council further investigate Martincoi.t Road
with specific emphasis on pedestrian traffic from. Rostrata
to Painted Rock School At the June 26, 1984 meeting,. the
4< City Council authorized the expenditure of $1.4,,000 for the
construction of asphalt berms, an earth walkway`, guardrails
raised reflectors, and additional traffic control measures.
At the January 7, 1986 meeting, the. City Council: asked staff
to restudy Martincoit Road with particular emphasis of estab
lishing an °All -Way'" Stop at Rostrata Road.
With the abandonment of the Irrevocable Offer. of Dedication
for Rostrata Road., west of Martincoit,, Rostrata Road forms
a "'T" intersection. with Martincoit Road.. 1-2artincoit Road
is posted 35 MPH south of Rostrata and 25 MPH north of Rostrata
past Painted Rock School. Speed studies conducted on January 10,
1986 showed that both nc:rth and southbound motoristss typically
exceed both the 35 and 25 MPH zones by 5 to 10 MPH..
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ACTION.
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JAN 21198- ITEM
y Request for. "All-Way"Stop
Page, 2
January 21, 1986
FINDINGS
In order to further improve: the safety of Mar.tincoit Road north
of Rostrata, the following measures should.be implemented:
1. Provide regular radar surveillance in the area of the
reverse curves.
t 2 Replace the Reverse Curve signs with a 2.5 MPH Reverse
Turn sign.
3.
Add Reduced Speed Ahead signs with rumble: strips on both
ends of the curves:.
4, Strip the centerline with solid double yellow strips and
additional. raised. reflectors.
S. Add Chevron alignment. signs on the guardrails to provide
additional emphasis of the curves.,
6. Trim the vegetation along Mar.tincait Road to provide
better sight, visibility.
An "'All -Way" stop sign at Martincoit, and Rostrata Road does not
d meet the traf f is warrants established in the Uniform Traffic
Control Devices Manual. in fact,, the manual specifically
discourages. the use of' stop signs at. low volume: intersections to
control speeding. In order to `establish an "All -Way stop, the:
above mentioned traffic safety measures should'be implemented
along with the installation of flashing red beacons and street
lights This would require an implementing resolution and budget
amendment to fund.the beacons and street lights.
In addition, the Green Valley Civic Association Board of
Directors considered this matter a their monthly meeting on
January 15, 198:6 It was their recommendation not to install the,
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3 -way stop.
RECOMMENDATION
It. is recommended that in lieu of the establishment of' an
"All -Way" stop, the six measures described in the, findings above
be implemented.
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JAN 21 1986 !'TEM'
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By Linda Ko2ab
would be a "preveentative measure.":
Staff Writer
"Please consider- our request be-
POWAY— A. resident of Martin-
fore a fatality occurs,"'she asked:
- colt Road has urged the Poway City
City Councilman Bob Emery said '
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Council to install a. stop sign on her
the *city has monitored the. traffic
road.
problem on Martincoit- Road: since.
Judy Markley, who. lives in the
1984, and he saicL. "This. letter indi-' '
160M block of Martincoit, made her
' cates there's still a problem out
appeal at Tuesday's council meeting:
there:"
Previously, Markley' had: written
Eme said the cit h uld do ;
t4 Mayor Carl fuse to report that.
some ing o gtocurtailthes . • ;
on Doc. 26 a pickup truck traveling
—Councilmn. Bruce, Tmy sal he
down Martincoit Road careened: past
didnotobject to taking any safety* :. .
a guard Taff and crashed. The truck
measures, but he° said neighbors in. '
landedon a walkway near Markley's:
the area: should be notified about f-.:
home., f
ture council: meetings on: the subject.,
The mother of two said, "(Safety
When the city, discussed putting. a-...
on) this waikwayhas previously been;
stop sign; there once before;: said'
' brought to your attention in that it is
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Tarty, "This subject was a source of
well traveled' by walking, and jogging
some disagreemenVI I
adults, and by children walking to
Tarzy, said there are: sections of
• Painted Rock Elementary School"
Poway, such as the Mardmit• Road
` Council members directed= the city
area, where, drivers often go too fast:
ataff-to report on speed: problems in
He said' he does not believe a stop -;
the area and to determine whether, a.
sign necessarily ° will be the answer..
k
i -.atop sign on near near Rostra-
He added hat a city staff report
Martincoit
ta. Road would -slow traffic in the
help. the council determine "to what.
t area:
extent them:.is a problem."
"We, homeowners and, residents,
Emery said Martincoit Road is
it requested' in the summer of 1984, that
like a "ski ramp;" with drivers pick-
r in addition to the guard rail which
ing up speed along. the street as they
was; to be installed, a stop. sign be
head toward Espola Road! .
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placed on: Martincoit Road at the.
'.,Rostrata Road intersection," Mark-.-MR�'Oir
KilSe to give
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ley said.
Markley said the recent truck ac-
state of cit address
cident raised questions about the
POWAY — Mayor Carl Kruse will,
speed on the roadway.
deliver a state of the city address at
" "Though the guard rail was some-
the regular City Council meeting at
c what, effective, the speed issue has
p.m. on Jan. 28.
not been resolved," she said. "I feel if
Kruse is expected to touch on
a. driver had: to consciously stop his
some of his goals for the one year he
vehicle at a stop sign;: he would be
will be in office; as well as provide _
i more aware; of the actualspeed he
an overview of capital improvement
i was traveling." She said a stop sign
projects planned in 1986!
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