Item 4.3 ADDITIONAL MATERIAL posted 8/26/14ADDITIONAL MATERIAL
From: molly @chassen.com [mailto:molly @chassen.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 3:04 PM
To: Sheila Cobian
Subject: Martincoit /Stone Canyon Intersection
Hello Ms. Cobian,
I will not be able to be at the meeting on the 2nd concerning the intersection at Martincoit
and Stone Canyon Rds. but as resident living right up the street from there I would like to
give my input about the situation. Please forward it to whoever it should go to. Thanks!
I live above the intersection on Martincout Road just past Acorn Patch. I have been driving
up and down the hill and through that intersection multiple times each day for 12 years, at
all different hours of the day shuttling kids to school, practices, errands, personal trips and
work. In all of that time none of the 5 drivers in my family have never had a "neat miss" or
any problem whatsoever going through that intersection. I understand that does not
necessarily mean that no one else has, but just for the record, that is our experience
as prolific and frequent users of that intersection.
The experience of driving up Stone Canyon (SC) and turning either right or left on Martincoit
Rd. (MR) is completely different than simply traveling north or south on MR. Turning right or
left from SC requires a full stop on a hill. I (Molly) do this at least once every day of my life
now and have never had any trouble waiting for a few cars on MR to pass by if they happen
to be present. There are some times in the day which are understandaby busier, like any
time after 5pm, but still the wait is always minimal.
Driving north or south on MR coming to or going from Espola is very different. Every time I
travel north I am extremely happy not to have to stop on an upward slant at that
intersection too. I would estimate that there are one or at the most two cars waiting at the
stop sign coming from SC approxiamtely 30% of the time when I am going to pass through
the intersection going north on MR. There is almost NEVER another car in front of me, so
their waiting time for me to approach the intesection and then pass through is only a matter
of a few minutes. I know this from experience since I also come up SC many times
myself and SOMETIMES have to wait for a car or two to pass. In our opinion, the system is
working very well as it is.
Putting in stop signs going both ways would be extremely frustrating for us. I am happy to
wait whenever it is necessary to turn onto MR from SC, but see no reason why the residents
of my neighborhood should be required to come to a complete stop while driving up hill
when coming from both directions. I have been so thankful every single time I go through
that intersection now that this attempt to put more stop signs did not go though the last
time, and I hope that my interests and those of the many other presently contented
residents who frequent this intesection many times in the day, year after year, will be
taken into serious consideration.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
Ben, Molly, Julia, Tim and Tony Chassen
16021 Martincoit Rd.
Molly
"Healthy Menus for
the Busy Lifestyle'
1 of 1 September 2, 2014, Item # 4.3
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From: Melody Rocco
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:43 AM
To: 'Mary Valentine'
Subject: RE: Re:proposal for Martincoit /Stone Canyon intersection
Ms. Valentine,
Thank you very much for your email. It has been forwarded to our City Clerk's office so that it can be
shared with our Councilmembers as additional material for the Council Report.
Thanks,
Melody
Melody Rocco, PE
Senior Civil Engineer
City of Poway — Development Services
13325 Civic Center Drive
Poway, CA 92064
mrocco @poway.org
Ph: 858 - 668 -4622
Fax: 858 - 668 -1212
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From: Mary Valentine [mailto:lidnsou @cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 2:50 PM
To: Melody Rocco
Subject: Re:proposal for Martincoit /Stone Canyon intersection
I have had many close calls turning left onto Martincoit with people going too fast coming down
Martincoit. I had one incident where a man was on his cell phone and turning onto Stone Canyon from
upper Martincoit. I yelled at him to get off his phone as he went by, and he chased me around Green
Valley, but I finally got away from him. Anyway the best proposal for the intersection is to have a three
way stop. This will alleviate any problems that would occur with people speeding down Martincoit and
giving drivers safely to turn Left onto Martincoit from Stone Canyon. I would think that would be the
cheapest too. What is the objection to a three way stop anyway? Hopefully I'll be able to attend the
meeting on Sept. 2nd. With concern, Mary Lou Valentine
1 of 1 September 2, 2014, Item # 4.3