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From: Sue Busch [mailto:sbusch7@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:01 AM
To: Don Higginson; Dave Grosch; Jim Cunningham; John Mullin; Steve Vaus; Dan Singer; Robin Bettin
Subject: Agenda 5.1 Dog off leash
City council and staff,
Thank you for your report last night and for the healthy discussion for the prospects of an off leash area
at Silverset Park. We are grateful that we are moving forward with the discussion and continue to give
you our support in this request. We will anticipate another meeting to follow up on further research for
OLA at Silverset and expect that we will be notified when the date for that meeting is set.
Attached are the comments I made last night. And to summarize, change is happening and how are we
adapting as a city to help meet that change for the citizens?
Fondly, Sue
"Be a rainbow in someone's cloud"
~ Maya Angelou
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Speech for October 21st CC meeting
Good evening Mayor, Council members and Staff,
Save Silverset park! That is what I have been reading on a few signs around Poway. When I
first read the sign I was asking myself why did Silverset Park need saving? Then I realized there
are a few important things that would help save Silverset Park. Bring back the friendly and
enjoyable atmosphere, bring back the sense of community, bring back the neighborly
atmosphere, bring back the laughter and friends gathering to recreate together. The last two
years have taken a severe toll on the park, it is not the same friendly park we once had. Less
people come to our park now. Dog walkers choose to take their dogs to other destinations.
Those were the folks that helped bring our community together.
We continue to propose that using the ball field for off leash play a few hours a day would help
bring back our park. We don't agree that there is a health and safety issue, we don't agree that
the field will be damaged as to hinder soft ball play. We don't agree to closing the ball field and
making it a "dog park". We have never wanted to make Silverset park into a dog park. That
would exclude the soft ball teams and any pick up games and we are not inclined to denying
others from enjoying the park and the ball field. The 2nd option to use the open field is
plausible, but again it would potentially exclude dog fearful people from enjoying the park
during the OL hours. Our proposal to use the ball field does not exclude anyone.
What we are asking for is Change. A change the way things happen in the park. That word
change is at the crux of this request. If we used the analogy of a train for the concept of change
then we know we are going to have 3 groups of people: those in the front driving the train,
those in the seats with a smile on their face anticipating a great ride and destination and those
not on the train standing beside ready to throw rocks at the train.
We have a slogan "Share the Road, Share the Park". Why is that so appropriate? I have a
question for you... did you ever see your parents go out for a long walk or a run? did you see
them ride their bike to work? I know my answer and it is NO, no for my parents, our friends
parents, our neighbors. Now, fast forward 50 years and I ask you can you go out and drive 2 or
3 miles down any road in Poway and not see someone walking, running or biking? What
happened? A change in how people like to recreate. So much has this become part of our
culture that the cities are having to install bike lanes, jogging paths, walking paths and to post
road caution signs "Share the Road" to remind motorists that they are not the only ones on the
road. Races, take any weekend and you can count on people going out for a bike or foot race or
both. There are thousands of people that get up before daylight to go do what they consider
recreation- a 5k, 10k, half or full marathons. Now roads have to be closed for miles and for
hours during the race so the motorists are not free to use those roads and have to make some
adjustments. The locals that live on the course have to make decisions; stay home and sleep in
late, leave for the weekend, or my favorite take their coffee and their chair, a boombox, some
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signs and come out on the curb and cheer on those folks running to inspire them to finish
strong.
We are asking for a change in the park, we are hoping that the change is much more benign
then what goes on during a race. We don't want people to have to stay home, or go
somewhere else- we hope that they can continue to enjoy the park in their way but we would
like to be able to also recreate in our way for short period of time on a piece of property at the
park. The ball field offers that possibility.
The night of the neighborhood meeting there were lots of folks here to speak about the issue
on both sides. There were some excellent thoughts shared that night and none of those
comments were part of this report. One speaker was Kyle who is not here tonight as he is back
to college at this time. Kyle love to bring Sammy to the park and play fetch with him. He grew
up with us and got to know us and would enjoy coming to hang out with us in the ball field. I
think that speaks to the community building this allows when a teen wants to come hang out
with adults. I am disappointed that the emails that were sent were included but not any
comments from the folks that actually showed up to be present and speak to the issue.
As I close I want to share my experience in Encinitas. I went over to the parks without my dogs
to observe the parks. I got to Viewpoint a little early and I thought I was at the wrong park as it
was a beautiful park, very pristine in appearance. But at 3:00 pm the dogs began to arrive with
their families, they all seem to know what to do and where to go. There were some that like to
play ball, some that wanted to romp with their 4 legged friends, the two legged folks either sat
on the benches and let their dogs play or threw the ball for them. They came for about 20
minutes and then they were gone and a new group would come in. Then I went to Orpheus
Park and it was the same scenario, dogs and people having a wonderful time talking and playing
and alerting people when their dog was leaving a deposit. I was leaving and I spoke to a woman
and I said "You have a wonderful thing going on here", her response was " I know, it was a God
send as I just moved here 4 months ago and didn't know anyone, then I found this park and it
helped me tremendously get in touch with my new community. I love this park"
This is what we are asking for in our Silverset Park, we want someone to say how important the
park was for them in their lives because of the good people recreating in the park. Recreating
with friendly dogs is a sure bet you are going to meet someone as they are good ambassadors
and love to meet and greet.
So in closing we would like for you to help make a change for our park and allow citizens to
come to the park to recreate with their dogs off leash for a short period of time in a space that
is respectful to all park users ensuring that they can continue their recreation, but also allows us
to have our recreation time with our dogs and friends.
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From: Kim Conant [mailto:kim@conant.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:23 PM
To: Steve Vaus; DAve Grosch; Don Higginson; Dan Singer Subject: Off-Leash Hours at Silverset Park
To: Jim Cunningham, John Mullin, Steve Vaus, Dave Grosch, Don Higginson, Dan Singer
The following is a copy of the remarks I plan to share at the City Council this evening. Just in case we run
out of time, I would like this to be entered into the record.
Hello…My name is Kim Conant, and I am part of the group of concerned, involved, and connected
Poweigians who are willing to work out a solution to the problem presented here tonight. After nearly
30 years of living in this neighborhood and this unique community, I consider my decision to live in
Poway one of the best ones ever
What I see happening is this: we have a beautiful neighborhood park that allows us to come together to
build community. Our group wants to bring our off-leashed dogs here on a very limited and well-
defined basis. We’ve, been doing this, should I say informally, for years, and it’s worked. We’d love to
work within the system to do it legally, following the rules established by our elected
representatives. We’re willing to get our hands dirty – do the work, commit the time, treasure, and
talent to make it work for all. Here, you’ve got a group of residents ready to build community by
working together.
I would like to invite everyone to work together to find a solution. Let’s talk about what we don’t
want. We don’t want to build a wall between our neighbors and friends. We don’t want to tyrannize
the park with unruly dogs. We don’t want to push any group away for any reason. AND, we don’t want
an additional dog park.
What we do want is to facilitate community. We do want a trial period to have a chance to let our dogs
be off leash in an enclosed area for a limited time. We do want to bridge the divide that’s developed
between all of our neighbors.
Now, what is it that we are willing to do? We’re willing to fund-raise to purchase gates and signs. We’re
willing to police the area to ensure it’s clean and safe for all. We’re willing to establish an accountable
group to work with the City of Poway. We’re willing to do whatever it takes! You have us. We want to
be a part of the team that finds a solution. Please give us a chance.
Regards,
Kim Conant
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Salamy [mailto:msalamy@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:13 AM
To: Robin Bettin
Subject: Leerburg | Dog Parks: Why They Are A Bad Idea
http://leerburg.com/dogparks.htm
Please see some of these articles and stories about the dangers of dog parks. The last article is about a
golden retriever killed by a Great Dane at a dog park while his poor owners watched, followed by the
Great Dane and his owner's disappearance.
Thank you for your concern!
Lauren Snyder
Poway
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From: Ginger Scholz [mailto:Ginger.Scholz@kieranlabel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:10 PM
To: Don Higginson; Dave Grosch; Jim Cunningham; John Mullin; Steve Vaus
Subject: Poway City Council Meeting
Dear Poway City Council Members,
Unfortunately I am unable to attend tonight's meeting but I would like to express my
approval of off-leash dog use at Silverset Park. I think this is a great shared use of the
park and addresses the growing needs of the neighborhood.
Thank you,
Ginger Scholz
Production Planning & Purchasing Manager
Kieran Label Corporation
2321 Siempre Viva Ct.
San Diego, CA 92154
( 619.449.4457 x121 Fax: 619.449.8549
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