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ADDITIONAL MATERIALS
(Agenda Related Writings/Documents provided to City Council or Staff after distribution of the
Agenda Packet for the January 18, 2022 Council Meeting)
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
CONTACT:
January 18, 2022
Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council
Robert Manis, Director of Development Services M
Melody Rocco, City Engineer )}J-
(858)668-4653 or mrocco@poway.org
SUBJECT: Item #13 - A Resolution Approving an All-Way Stop Control at the Intersection of
Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road
This item was previously scheduled to be presented to the City Council on November 16, 2021.
In advance of the meeting, notices were mailed to residents living within a 500-foot radius from
the intersection, 2,000 feet from the intersection along Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road,
and all residents who attended the Traffic Safety Committee meeting regarding this matter.
Notification signs were also posted at the intersection. The item was rescheduled prior to
posting of the City Council agenda and staff sent out a notice of the rescheduled item. Attached
please find correspondence that was received based upon the original mailed notice and in
response to the notice for the January 18, 2022 item.
Reviewed/Approved By:
Wendy Kaserman
Assistant City Manager
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Reviewed By:
Alan Fenstermacher
City Attorney
Approved By:
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City Manager
January 18, 2022, Item #13
January 18, 2022, Item #13ADDITIONAL MATERIALSFrom: To: Subject: Date: Archie Pavek Oty Clerk November 16, 2021 Meeting Thursday, November 4, 2021 10:55:39 AM I You don't often get email from go1fshot02@cox.net. Learn why this is important EXTE . AL MAJL Reference to the above subject meeting. We oppose the All-Way stop control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road. Thanks, Archie Pavek 13671 Orchard Gate Rd. 2 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Jerry Markus Melody Rocco All-Way Stop Control at the intersetion of Martincoit and Stone Canyon Roads Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:41:48 AM I You don't often get email from jergmar@gmail.com. Learn why this is important EXTERJ'\T AL EMAIL To: Melody Rocco, City Engineer From: Jerome Markus, resident of Poway Subject: All-Way Stop Control at the intersection of Martincoit. & Stone Canyon Roads I submit that there is no safety issues that have been reported at this intersection and that the cause-celebre is the traffic at the times Painted Rock Elementary School started and ends. Parents driving their children to and from school increase the flow of traffic during those times and either want or need better access through the intersection .. I believe there is a simple solution to this issue that does not require the installation of a full-time traffic control light system. Presuming the traffic issue for dropping off and picking up children is approximately 30-45 minutes at two times a day, only during school days, perhaps the Sheriff's Volunteer Patrol could be used to control traffic during those limited times. This would eliminate the need for the costly installation and would not interfere with the normal traffic flow during the majority of the day. I would appreciate a response to this email. Respectfully, Jerome Markus 3 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Nikki Frampton Melody Rocco All way stop Martincoit and Stone Canyon Sunday, November 14, 20211:41:20 PM You don't often get email from nikki.frampton@gmail.com. Learn why this is important fu"'<TERNAL EMAlL Hello Melody, Once again, I will not be attending the meeting clue to the pandemic. However, I would like to provide my input regarding this all-vvay stop. I argued against the previous attempt to acid an all-way stop and my feelings have not changed. 1 believe the only people this truly impacts are the residents of this neighborhood. Those people who drive too quickly (mostly school traffic) and oftentimes ignore the all way stop at the bottom of Stone Canyon Road are not likely, in my opinion, to stop at this new traffic measure. Aclclitionally, due to the nurn.ber of cars who use the area as a cut through during the school run, the all-way stop will lead to a build up of traffic at the junction leading to increased pollution in our neighborhood. l will be honest and say that I'm really not sure of the purpose of this proposed highway change as it is not an accident black spot either. l do not see the all-way stop solving the speeding issue nor deter people using this as a cut through and so I would like to lodge my objection to this plan. l will add that r think this cut through problem will increase once the golf course is developed across the street from Martincoit. I think an easy solution to this would be to move the entrance of the new development, so drivers automatically feed onto the main roads and not side residential roads. If this all-way stop idea is in anyway an attempt to mediate future traffic, [ object to added pollution caused by the stop start nature of rhe proposed stop. 4 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13Thank you for your time, Nikki When a man is denied the right to live the life he to believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw. Nelson Mandela 5 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: Joyce To: Melody Rocco Subject: Stop sign on Martincoit Date: Friday, January 14, 2022 11:27:54 AM [You don't often get email from samhoffman@cox.net. Learn why this is important at http:/ /aka.ms/LeamAboutSenderlden ti fication.] EXTERNAL EMAIL To Whom It May Concern, I have lived on Martincoit road since 1995. The stop at Stone Canyon and Martincoit has ALWAYS been problematic. I cannot count how many times I have come close to being smashed into while stopped at the sign by drivers barreling down the hill and being unable to control their angle of the left tum. Additionally, I have been almost T-boned by drivers tearing up the hill after I've judged that no cars were in the vicinity and attempted to tum left onto Martincoit. I taught my 4 children that when you're at that intersection to make sure you're in the middle of the lane rather than near the left side for the above reason. I have emailed the city council previously on this issue. PLEASE put in a 3 way stop sign!! Thank you From Joyce Hoffman 16624 Martincoit Rd 6 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Diana Berti Melody Rocco Three way stop signs at Martincoit and Stone Canyon are a must. Friday, January 14, 2022 12:15:08 PM I You don't often get email from diana@dianabertidesign.com. Learn why this is important EXTER.l"l AL MAIL Dear Mr. Rocco, I AM SO PLEASED that we are revisiting the concept of a three way stop sign at Martincoit and Stone Canyon. This intersection is SO very dangerous. I never take a left off of Stone Canyon without turning my head 6 times!! People fly down (north) Martincoit coming from around the blind comer and it is SCARY. I cannot attend the JAN 18th city hall meeting due to soccer tryouts with my son, but if I could, I would be there. I feel very passionate about this. Thank you, Diana Berti, resident on Orchard Bend Rd in Green Valley who uses that intersection daily 7 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Jill Underwood Melody Rocco Re: All-Way Stop Control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road Friday, January 14, 2022 12:31:39 PM EXTERNAL cMAfL Thank you for the update. I am probably in the minority, but I am against the stop signs. No matter what you do, people will continue to drive they way they do up/down Martincoit/Stone Canyon with or without the signs. The issue for me is the back up this will create for the streets, especially during the school hours along both those roads. People living near the comers will not be able to get in or out easily with the number of cars that will be outside their driveways. It certainly isnt perfect now, but I really don't think the signs will help. What would help is if there was a way to defer the traffic to Painted Rock not to use Martincoit and Stone Canyon as an access -planners should have foreseen this and made a tum-around point near to the school. Also, I was misled to think The Farm main access road was not across from Martincoit, but would instead be off Valle Verde. Now, there will be even more traffic up Stone Canyon and Martincoit once the development is complete. Planners should at least reconsider a way to prevent the additional traffic now before it is too late. Thank you for your time. Jill Underwood P.S. I am a dog walker and have never had an issue with the cars going up and down those streets. Only an issue at the bend of Martincoit going up to Orchard Bend when 2 people have taken the tum too quickly and crashed their cars into our neighbors fence! On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 12:06 PM Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> wrote: Good afternoon, If you are receiving this email then you have contacted the City in regards to the proposed all-way stop control at the Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road intersection. In all likelihood you received a letter informing you that staff would be presenting this item to the City Council on Tuesday January 18th. The City has been closed to the public for the past two weeks due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The City will remain closed through at least next week and the City Council meeting has been changed to a fully remote meeting. You are strongly encouraged to attend the meeting remotely or to email in your input. Any emails received by myself or the City Clerk will be provided to the City Council as additional material to the agenda item. I also strongly encourage you to share this additional/updated information with your neighbors to ensure their voices are heard as well. Below is a link to the City's website where you can access the meeting information on Tuesday night at 7pm. https://poway.org/636/Council-Meetings 8 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13I appreciate your understanding in this change in the City Council meeting and look f01ward to hearing your input on this very important item. Thanks, Melody Melody Rocco, PE, CFM City Engineer Development Services Department 858-668-4653 9 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Jerry Markus Melody Rocco Re: All-Way Stop Control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road Friday, January 14, 2022 1:01:24 PM EXTERNAL 'EMArL Thank you for the information. I am NOT in favor of the 4-way stop at this intersection unless there is a history of safety violations or accidents.at the location. Respectfully, Jerome Markus On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 12:06 PM Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> wrote: Good afternoon, If you are receiving this email then you have contacted the City in regards to the proposed all-way stop control at the Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road intersection. In all likelihood you received a letter informing you that staff would be presenting this item to the City Council on Tuesday January 18th. The City has been closed to the public for the past two weeks due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The City will remain closed through at least next week and the City Council meeting has been changed to a fully remote meeting. You are strongly encouraged to attend the meeting remotely or to email in your input. Any emails received by myself or the City Clerk will be provided to the City Council as additional material to the agenda item. I also strongly encourage you to share this additional/updated information with your neighbors to ensure their voices are heard as well. Below is a link to the City's website where you can access the meeting information on Tuesday night at 7pm. https:/ /poway.org/63 6/Council-Meetings I appreciate your understanding in this change in the City Council meeting and look forward to hearing your input on this very important item. Thanks, Melody Melody Rocco, PE, CFM 10 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13City Engineer Development Services Department 858-668-4653 11 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Tammy Trust Melody Rocco 3way stop Friday, January 14, 2022 1:56:49 PM [You don't often get email from tammytrustl@yahoo.com. Learn why this is important at http://aka.ms/LeamAboutSenderidentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi We are requesting that the intervention of stone canyon rd and Martincoit be changed to a 3 way stop. It's a dangerous blind comer and people drive much too fast coming down the road on Martincoit. It's extremely dangerous and it needs to be corrected. Thank you Tammy Trust Poway resident Sent from my iPhone 12 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: pegmschultz@gmail.com Melody Rocco Stone Canyon & Martincoit Intersection Friday, January 14, 2022 1:58:05 PM I You don't often get email from pegmschultz@gmail.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL Dear Ms. Rocco, I am a Green Valley resident of ten years and live on upper Sagewood Drive. Just about every day I head out to town for shopping, kids' sports, etc. and pass through the Martincoit-Stone Canyon intersection. While the heading out part is a breeze, coming come is not so breezy. While turning left from Stone Canyon, I always look to my left, then right, then left and right and maybe once again and finally if it's clear I turn left onto Martincoit. Even with all this precaution, I have still managed to get in the way of cars coming either up or down Martincoit to where either myself or the other driver has had to brake hard to avoid collision. It's very unsafe. I understand now that the City is considering stop signs for that intersection and that it is a controversial proposal. The residents against it are the ones coming down the hill fast with no worry of being broadsided, unlike the residents who live down the hill and are turning left to go home. If the only argument against adding signs is to keep the traffic moving then that would be code for not wanting to spend ten more seconds on their daily commute. The argument for residents turning left is that they don't want to die young. Considering this comparison, I would hope that the City would simply comply and help make our neighborhood be as safe as possible for everyone. Thank you for your consideration, Peggy Schultz 13910 Sagewood Drive -Poway 13 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: kwmsrealty Melody Rocco: kwmsreaity@cox.net RE: 3 way stop sign at Martincoit and Stone Canyon Friday, January 14, 2022 2:30:24 PM I You don't often get email from kwmsrealty@cox.net. Learn why this is important ·XTERNAL EMAIL Yes . I am in support of the all way stop control. Thank you. Kay B. Williams Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Tablet --------Original message --------From: Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> Date: 1/14/22 2:25 PM (GMT-08:00) To: kwmsrealty <kwmsrealty@cox.net> Subject: RE: 3 way stop sign at Martincoit and Stone Canyon Good afternoon Kay, I just want to ensure that I forward the correct information. I assume you are in support of the all-way stop control. Can you please confirm? Thanks, Melody Melody Rocco, PE, CFM City Engineer Development Services Department 858-668-4653 14 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: kwmsrealty <kwmsrealty@cox.net> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 2:24 PM To: Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> Subject: 3 way stop sign at Martincoit and Stone Canyon I You don't often get email from kwmsrealty@cox.net. Learn why this is important EXTERNA[ EMAIL Have lived on Martincoit for 16 years and have almost been rear ended at that I Intersection. Let's don't wait until someone is hurt. Let's correct the site now. Thank you, Kay B. Williams Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Tablet 15 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Robyn Weller Melody Rocco Stop sign Friday, January 14, 2022 2:37:59 PM [You don't often get email from robynbl974@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at http://aka ms/LeamAboutSenderidentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL I am writing in support of the three way stop sign at the intersection of Stone Canyon and Martincoitt. It is one of the scariest intersections in our entire neighborhood. I don't really understand how it hasn't been made into one as it is almost a blind hill both up and down. For the safety of our community I urge you to facilitate the change. Robyn Weller Green Valley resident Sent from my iPhone 16 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Nicole callaway Melody Rocco Martincoit/Stone Canyon Stop Sign Friday, January 14, 2022 4:32:34 PM I You don't often get email from nicole@toddandnicole.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL £MALL Dear Ms. Rocco, I'm writing in support of the stop sign that is being proposed for Martincoit and Stone Canyon. I travel through this intersection almost daily and it is a scary experience to tum left onto Martincoit from Stone Canyon. Even after looking left and right several times, you still have to pull out quickly to miss the cars that speed around the blind curve. I now have a teenage driver and it terrifies me how dangerous this intersection is for him. I cannot attend the January City Hall Meeting, but would like to make it known that I am in full support of this safety improvement to our neighborhood. Thank You, Nicole Callaway Orchard Bend Rd. Resident 17 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Mel Tondro Melody Rocco Re: Stone Canton & Martincoit intersection mitigation Friday, January 14, 2022 6:11:18 PM [You don't often get email from moviefan5@yahoo.com. Learn why this is important at htw · //aka ms/Learn AboutSenderldentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Melody -Yes, I am in favor of a 3-way stop. Thank you, Melicent PS: Pardon me for addressing you as "Mr." in my original email. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2022, at 3:56 PM, Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> wrote: > > Good afternoon Melicent, > I just want to ensure that I forward the correct information. I assume you are in support of the all-way stop control. Can you please confirm? > Thanks, > Melody > > Melody Rocco, PE, CFM > City Engineer > Development Services Department > 858-668-4653 > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Mel Tondro <moviefan5@yahoo.com> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 3:51 PM > To: Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> > Subject: Stone Canton & Martincoit intersection mitigation > > [You don't often get email from moviefan5@yahoo.com. Learn why this is important at http://aka ms/LeamAboutSenderldentificatjon.] > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > Dear Mr. Roccco -> > I just read the posted notice at the intersection site, referenced above, regarding the meeting to discuss possible ways to reduce risk at this site. > > I recall strongly cautioning my children, several years ago when they were student drivers, to always visually triple-check both directions of traffic before proceeding through it -as I myself had witnessed close calls between cars traversing it. > > I'm unable to attend the meeting but I hope some decisions can be made to reduce the potential risk of danger at 18 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13this intersection. > > Sincerely, > Melicent Tondro > Green Valley resident in Poway > > > Sent from my iPhone 19 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Fisher Ron Melody Rocco: Melody Rocco Re: All-Way Stop Control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road Friday, January 14, 2022 6:28:34 PM EXTERNAL EMAIL Melody: I would like to make a case that the stop sign is not needed. I would say what should be done, is to lower the speed limit. When I wrote to the traffic engineer before I was told, "The speed limits are set according to what can be enforced." But, the report on actual speeds down and up Martincoit clearly show 10-15 mph AVERAGE above the speed limit. So, obviously, the speed limits are IlQlbeing enforced at all. If the speed were put back to 30--which it used to be--AND if they were enforced, then there would be no need for a stop sign on Martincoit because there is plenty of sight distance for cars stopped on Stone Canyon. The only time I've remotely had an issue leaving the stop sign on Stone Canyon is when a car was clearly exceeding the 35 mph, by a lot. Thank for reading this. But I also assume it's a done deal. I am sure there are more parents who run late dropping their kids off at Painted Rock who hate waiting at the Stone Canyon stop sign. By the way--were those tiny signs at the side of the road supposed to inform us about the council meeting to discuss this issue? Because those were useless even if you were going 30 mph. Can't even read the one when approaching the stop sign on Stone Canyon. But hey--I guess that's one way to limit participation? Ron Fisher Acorn Patch Lane On Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:06:42 PM PST, Melody Rocco <mrocco@poway.org> wrote: Good afternoon, If you are receiving this email then you have contacted the City in regards to the proposed all-way stop control at the Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road intersection. In all likelihood you received a letter informing you that staff would be presenting this item to the City Council on Tuesday January 18th. The City has been closed to the public for the past two weeks due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The City will remain closed through at least next week and the City Council meeting has been changed to a fully remote meeting. You are strongly encouraged to attend the meeting remotely or to email in your input. Any emails received by myself or the City Clerk will be provided to the City Council as additional material to the agenda item. I also strongly encourage you to share this additional/updated information with your neighbors to ensure their voices are heard as well. Below is a link to the City's website where you can 20 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13access the meeting information on Tuesday night at 7pm. bttps:Upoway.org/636/Council-Meetings I appreciate your understanding in this change in the City Council meeting and look forward to hearing your input on this very important item. Thanks, Melody Melody Rocco, PE, CFM City Engineer Development Services Department 858-668-4653 21 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: KERRY SPARK Melody Rocco Martincoit/Stone Canyon stop signs Friday, January 14, 2022 10:12:28 PM I You don't often get email from liltwinangels@gmail.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAf Hi, I am writing with efforts in creating the Stone Canyon three-way stop sign. I completely agree that this change is a necessity and an extreme benefit to all who travel on Stone Canyon and Martincoit Rd. This intersection as it is now, is completely dangerous in both directions for both parties involved. I can't stress enough how many times I have almost been hit by speedy cars driving up Martincoit while I was stopped on Stone Canyon trying to get on Martincoit. And, this is with my kids in the car! It is not ok. Even if the cars going up Martincoit are not speeding, I still have to nervously turn my head back and forth numerous times while entering the road and the whole time I'm still turning too. With all of this being said, I, along with so many others, see no reason to not put a three-way stop sign at this intersection. If people want to be safe, it is the only option. I am glad to know that my letter will be read and considered at the City Council meeting on Jan 18th at 7pm since I will not be able to attend personally. Thank you! Kerry Spark 16460 Martincoit Rd 22 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Cc: Subject: Date: Laura Walton Melody Rocco Ray Walton Yes to Stop Sign at Martincoit & Stone Canyon Friday, January 14, 2022 10:25:24 PM [You don't often get email from laurawalton@cox.net. Learn why this is important at http://aka.ms/LeamAboutSenderidentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL Ms Rocco, I was relieved to see the stop sign at this intersection is being revisited. The intersection is so dangerous as drivers on Martincoit heading both north and south are typically over the speed limit. The left tum from Stone Canyon is treacherous at times. Prior to moving to Green Valley eleven years ago we lived in Vineland Hills where a controversial stop sign was added at Valle Verde and Vinter Way. It took more than one serious accident and a death to finally install that stop sign. The neighborhood adjusted accordingly. Please allow this stop sign; our neighborhood will adjust and we will avoid further accidents or worse. Best, Laura and Ray Walton 13947 Sagewood Drive Poway, CA 92064 Sent from my iPhone 23 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Ellen Kohls Melody Rocco Subject: Re: All-Way Stop Control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road Saturday, January 15, 2022 9:24:01 AM Date: EXTER AL EMAIL I live at 16414 Martincoit Rd. and would very much like to see a three way stop sign at the comer of Martincoit and Stone Canyon. It is hard to see traffic coming down or going up Martincoit when I am trying to make a left tum from Stone Canyon into Martincoit. Also my friend at 13404 Stone Canyon, who does not have email, would like a three stop sign on the comer of Stone Canyon and Martincoit. Her name is Darlene McEacherin. Thanks, Ellen Kohls Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> wrote: 24 of 37 Good afternoon, If you are receiving this email then you have contacted the City in regards to the proposed all-way stop control at the Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road intersection. In all likelihood you received a letter informing you that staff would be presenting this item to the City Council on Tuesday January 18th. The City has been closed to the public for the past two weeks due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The City will remain closed through at least next week and the City Council meeting has been changed to a fully remote meeting. You are strongly encouraged to attend the meeting remotely or to email in your input. Any emails received by myself or the City Clerk will be provided to the City Council as additional material to the agenda item. I also strongly encourage you to share this additional/updated information with your neighbors to ensure their voices are heard as well. Below is a link to the City's website where you can access the meeting information on Tuesday night at 7pm. httgs://goway.org/636/Council-Meetings I appreciate your understanding in this change in the City Council meeting and look forward to hearing your input on this very important item. Thanks, Melody Melody Rocco, PE, CFM City Engineer Development Services Department 858-668-4653
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Pam K. Melody Rocco All-Way Stop Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:19:37 PM I You don't often get email from pamkirpalani@gmail.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL Attention: Poway City Council Members As long time residents on Cricket Hill, parallel to Stone Canyon, we have had several near accidents at the Stone Canyon/Martincoit intersection. Our instructions to our student drivers were unfortunately, "Look left, look right, do both again and then move the car out of the way quickly! and get up to speed so you don't get hit." No responsible parent really wants to train their children to drive that way in order to keep them safe. We also have had serious incidents turning left from Cricket Hill onto Martincoit because of the increasing speed of drivers descending the hill. When stopped at the Stone Canyon stop sign, a driver is presented with a blind curve to the right which has become even more dangerous with the recent increase in the speed limit on Martincoit Rd. When the speed limit was 25mp, drivers went 35mph. Now that the speed limit is 35mph, drivers go 45mph. This shouldn't surprise anyone who drives! Drivers turning right from Stone Canyon, those who live uphill, have less dangerous situations as their view downhill on Martincoit is unobstructed so it is understandable they may not see the problem. An All-Way Stop would decrease these incidents. Unfortunately, it would also lead to more congestion at the intersection during heavy traffic times, increase tickets for drivers gliding through the stop sign rather than making a complete stop, and potentially blocking side access roads like Cricket Hill with cars waiting at the stop sign. A compromise might be to install a speed bump on Martincoit uphill from the Stone Canyon intersection. This would accomplish slowing traffic, allow for continuous flow during heavy traffic times and alleviate ticketing for folks who would find it frustrating stopping when no other cars are at the intersection. Another welcome addition would be a mirror to mitigate the blind curve so drivers could see oncoming traffic. Our family greatly appreciates the time and effort that has been expended to mitigate this dangerous long term problem. We hope a solution will now be found so we no longer hear the squealing of tires avoiding accidents in our beautiful neighborhood. Everyone's safety is top priority. Pam & Raj Kirpalani 13404 Cricket Hill Poway,, CA 92064 858-592-03 77 25 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Cathy Bishop Melody Rocco Stone Canyon and Martincoit Stop Sign Sunday, January 16, 2022 10:45:15 AM [You don't often get email from cathybishop@cox.net. Learn why this is important at http://aka.ms/LeamAboutSenderidentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL I live above Stone Canyon and travel down the Martincoit several times a day. The thing that worries me about the stop sign is the blind curve on Martincoit as we head down the hill. If several cars are stopped at the stop sign waiting to tum, it's possible a car traveling down may run into the back of cars waiting to tum. I'm against putting a stop sign at Stone Canyon. One more thing, I have lived here over 40 years, I have heard of only one accident at that intersection and there were no injuries. There appears to be no good solution. A stop sign benefits the cars coming up Stone Canyon and turning left. Also, it's dangerous for cars coming down Martincoit above Stone Canyon. It's a difficult decision. Hopefully there is a solution that satisfies both parties. Regards, Cathy Bishop 26 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Jessica Studarus Melody Rocco Yes on stop sign at Martincoit and Stone canyon Sunday, January 16, 2022 3:43:38 PM I You don't often get email from jpstudarus@gmail.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL Hello, We own a home 3 houses from the dangerous intersection in question. We expect the City Council to make practical adjustments to the road to maintain a pro-pedestrian community and family-safe roads. Our community is changing, traffic has increased, and a safety intervention at the intersection of Martincoit and Stone Canyon is overdue. To access the walking and horse trails in our neighborhood, I have to cross this intersection (where I have nearly been hit as a pedestrian multiple times). I also have to brave the speeding downhill traffic on Martincoit. I am for whatever traffic calming, traffic slowing, pro pedestrian interventions we can implement: -create right angles for the turns to make clearer stops and to slow traffic -create a pedestrian berth and a crosswalk. -create a walking berth on Martincoit, narrowing the road and slowing traffic -yes, create a 3 way stop. Thank you, Jessica Studarus 27 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: J Schock Melody Rocco 2-Way stop at Martincoit & Stone Canyon Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:25:48 PM [You don't often get email from janiceschock@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at http ://aka ms/LeamAboutSenderiden tification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL City Council, I am in favor of a stop sign for downhill traffic on Martincoit at Stone Canyon. Commercial vehicles and large SUV s travel too fast and there is limited visibility at the curve. I am not in favor of a stop sign for uphill traffic on Martincoit, traffic travels slower up hill and visibility is not an issue. A sign on the uphill would impede the flow of traffic and is not the issue. The issue is the speed and lack of visibility of the downhill traffic. Respectfully, Janice Schock 13618 Sagewood Drive Poway (Green Valley) 28 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Stephanie Dunnick Melody Rocco Martincoit/Stone Canyon Monday, January 17, 2022 12:13:02 AM [You don't often get email from smason3488@hotmail.com. Learn why this is important at http· //aka ms/LeamAboutSenderidentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL Writing to support the need for increased safety at this intersection. Stephanie Dunnick, Green Valley Sent from my iPhone 29 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Nate Northup Melody Rocco Supporting 3-way stop at Stone Canyon/Martincoit Monday, January 17, 2022 8:27:40 AM [You don't often get email from papancn@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at http:Uaka ms/LeamAboutSenderldentification.] EXTERNAL EMAIL I understand that the Poway City Council will be considering signage at the intersection ofMartincoit and Stone Canyon Road in Green Valley at its meeting Tuesday evening, January 18. I favor installing stop signs for all traffic at this intersection. As a 34-year resident of Green Valley, I have experienced many sphincter-tightening moments trying to navigate this location. I live on Rostrata Road and drive out to Pomerado Road quite often. On return, it is always a challenge to make a left tum from eastbound Stone Canyon Road to northbound (downhill) Martincoit due to vehicles coming up the hill (from my left) or around the sharp comer (from my right). Please don't wait for the next-inevitable---crash at this intersection before taking action to protect drivers and pedestrians. By the way, doing this will save the city and its taxpayers the pain of a lawsuit, legal fees and a settlement or verdict payout against certain "dangerous condition" liability. 30 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: kwmsrealty Melody Rocco Intersection at Stone Canyon and Martincoit Monday, January 17, 2022 9:55:54 AM EXTERN AL EMAIL I support stop signs at this location. There is insufficient distance both north and south on Martin co it Rd for a safe view of oncoming traffic when on Stone Canyon ... I have been uncomfortable turning at this location for 20 years. The only good thing is that it keeps my neck in good condition as I check north, then south, then north, then south ... then step in the gas and hope like hell that I make it. YES on signs. P L E A S E ! Chuck Williams, 16608 Martincoit Rd Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 31 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: ~ Melody Rocco Subject: Fwd: Add stop signs Date: Monday, January 17, 2022 10:32:00 AM I You don't often get email from phui1@cox.net. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAfL I meant sirs. I vote for stop signs. Peter Hui Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: 32 of 37 From: Peter Hui <phuil@cox.net> Date: 17 January 2022 at 10:26:12 AM GMT-8 To: mrocco@poway.org Subject: Add stop signs Sits, Please add stop signs at Sone Canyon and Martincoit Road. The drivers from Martincoit do not respect can't drivers from Stone Canyon. Peter Hui 16552 Martincoit Road, Poway, CA 92064 Sent from my iPhone
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: B2!2fil.!J Melody Rocco Martincoit/stone canyon stop signs Monday, January 17, 2022 12:36:27 PM I You don't often get email from robertwwli@hotmail.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Melody, I live on Martincoit a few houses down from the this location. We definitely should put a stop sign there. We have lived here for over 30 years and its dangerous for anyone driving, walking, running, etc .... It's a completely blind turn where, there are thousands of times where we make a left thinking there are no cars coming down the hill because you cant see around that turn, then having to brake and pull back when a car appears out of no where. You really have to pay attention and think twice making a left turn onto Martincoit. I just wanted to let you know that my wife and I are all for the stop signs to go up. Thanks, Robert Sent from Mail for Windows 33 of37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Pete Sievers Melody Rocco 3-way stop on Martincoit Rd and Stone cane Canyon Monday, January 17, 2022 1:16:04 PM I You don't often get email from pete@ngulube.com. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL Absolutely yes Thank you 34 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Cc: Subject: Date: Ray Walton Melody Rocco Laura Walton Re: Yes to Stop Sign at Martincoit & Stone Canyon Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05:52 AM EXTERNAL EMAIL Hi Ms. Rocco, I'd like to add a note along the same lines. Every time I come to that intersection I get nervous and hyper-aware of the possibility ofa bad outcome. And now that we're parents of two teenage drivers, my concern about them navigating this intersection is always top of mind. It's beyond time to address this dangerous intersection. Respectfully, Ray Walton 13947 Sagewood Dr Poway CA 92064 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> wrote: > > Good morning Laura, > Thank you for your email. It will be provided to the City Council for consideration. > Thanks, > Melody > > Melody Rocco, PE, CFM > City Engineer > Development Services Department > 858-668-4653 > > -----Original Message-----> From: Laura Walton <laurawalton@cox.net> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 10:25 PM > To: Melody Rocco <MRocco@poway.org> > Cc: Ray Walton <raywalton@cox.net> > Subject: Yes to Stop Sign at Martincoit & Stone Canyon > > [You don't often get email from laurawalton@cox.net. Learn why this is important at http :Uaka ms/LeamAboutSenderldentjficatjon.] > > EXTERNAL EMAIL > > Ms Rocco, > > I was relieved to see the stop sign at this intersection is being revisited. > > The intersection is so dangerous as drivers on Martincoit heading both north and south are typically over the speed limit. The left tum from Stone Canyon is treacherous at times. > > Prior to moving to Green Valley eleven years ago we lived in Vineland Hills where a controversial stop sign was added at Valle Verde and Vinter Way. It took more than one serious accident and a death to finally install that stop 35 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13sign. The neighborhood adjusted accordingly. > > Please allow this stop sign; our neighborhood will adjust and we will avoid further accidents or worse. > > Best, > > Laura and Ray Walton > 13947 Sagewood Drive > Poway, CA 92064 > > Sent from my iPhone 36 of 37
January 18, 2022, Item #13From: To: Subject: Date: Grace Lieberman Melody Rocco Proposed All-way Stop Control at Intersection of Stone Canyon Road and Martincoit Road Poway Road Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:25:00 PM I You don't often get email from grace@seer.org. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL To Whom It May Concern: I am writing in support the staff's proposed All Way Stop Control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road in Poway. I was heavily involved a similar proposed action in 2014. I walked the neighborhood, collected hundreds of signatures, met with the Traffic Safety Committee, and attended and spoke at City Council Meetings. I know the staff was in support of the proposal; and I talked directly with City Council Members Steve Vaus and Dave Grosch who also indicated support. The final vote of the City Council did not approve the proposal. While we appreciate the restriping of the intersection and striping work completed at the intersection, that is simply not enough. Here we are almost 8 years later, and it seems like "Groundhog Day." Cars speeding on Martincoit, cars making left turns on the Stone Canyon barely slowing down or staying in their lane, yet the danger at the intersection remains. Again, I support the new effort to create an All Way Stop Control at Martincoit Road and Stone Canyon Road in Poway. Sincerely, Grace M_ Lieberman 13648 Jackrabbit Road Poway, CA 92064 37 of 37